itti gori chhori! dhoop mein nikla na karo roop ki rani gora rang kaala na pad jaaye. (reminded me more of ‘only mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun’ more than anything else). bloody installation bullshit art!
It’s the same, even in Bombay, even if the beach isn’t more than 3minutes away from home. “It’s not safe”, “Don’t go alone”, “Don’t act oversmart” and the ultimate “You’re a girl” reminder. Thanks for sharing this video & the message at the end. :)
I’m just curious, you know. And I really dislike how people think misogyny is one culture/country/state’s problem so don’t mistake this for it. Help me understand, though, why was a dichotomy of the west and east so necessary to implicate here. Because I’ve lived (as a woman) in USA and UK and women get raped for ‘daring’ to go to the beach, hills, whatever space you’re talking about. Women get raped in dorm halls, in their very own rooms by the men they trust. So what I’m trying to ask here is: Why did the artist glorify the west through the constant voices in the background? Why can’t we conclude that public space is controlled by patriarchy THROUGHOUT the world and not just in one place?
patriarchy is a global predicament. however, there is a strong sentiment in parts of the global south, which excuses and justifies local patriarchy as regional conservatism, religious mores, cultural values, and seeks to un-authenticate people who cross those. I am trying to play with those statements, that render a woman as “western” “feminist” “fahaash” if she wears jeans. Same with sunglasses. It’s an interesting way to alienate and oppress.
I request the moderator to please remove the tag of Pakistan. This isn’t about Pakistan this is about how women are perceived in a patriarchal society, which isn’t much different from some part in India or countries of middle east.
Even all these years later, this resonates with me (I am now in my fifties :) , the things a woman has to hear and the hoops she has to jump through to achieve independence in Pakistan, even a simple thing like walk on the beach by herself.in Karachi. Sadly, young Pakistanis these days yearn to do so much, and cannot. I wish a woman did not have to hear all these comments when she tries to be independent in Pakistan and particularly Karachi, and that a woman COULD do things like walk on the beach by herself in Pakistan, particularly in Karachi, but the fact remains that she cannot because sadly enough it IS unsafe. I agreed with your video until the final message that said she should do what she likes…that is wishful thinking, and not reality.
” kya point prove karna cha rahi ho . Tumhe duniya ki reality nahi pata . ” …” paagal ho gayi hai ..tu badal le gi kya duniya ko “. “Bache apni protection karna seekh.. tujhe nahi pata “. Haye kalli kithe chali gayi … “.” jao ji le ke aao ohnu 8 vaj gaye aayi ni haje tak “.
I too can record a voice over of even more ridiculous stuff, that I come up with, narrated by some friends of mine. Alas I’m not so big on bandwagoning. Liberalism is a fashion these days.
My previous comment is concerned with the video & the creativity involved. The content surely is based on a social reality. There’s no denying that our public places are unsafe for young single women, so those admonishing them from venturing out are not entirely at fault. A safer environment will help assuage the genuine concerns of family & friends. Women will have a different set of social problems just like they’ll always have a different set of medical problems, because they are physically different. You can’t blame a doctor for a different disease or a different treatment of it between men & women, similarly if a parent has different concerns for the safety of their female child than a male one plz don’t blame it on this new favorite villain of patriarchy and spare the one who cares about you from the blame of gender discrimination.
In short the creator of this clip seems to have mixed up the blame for sexual violence & discrimination between the perpetrators and those who simply wish to be careful & avoid becoming its victim. I certainly am against those who harass women in public or private but this video just has such exaggerated and dramatised dialog that I couldn’t help but criticise the genius behind its creation.
Shaabash sher ki bachi.women should be empowered to do as they like. Critics stopping her shoulud change their thinking. Aakher kab tak aap aurat ko equaqlity nahi do gey. come on subcontinentals lets give them their due
Not denying the lack of safety for women in public spaces, esp of South Asia. But this video is self-contradictory. The fact that, in spite of all the cautions and admonishments, nothing really happens on the beach and the girl walks around quite freely, belies the whole point it is trying to make. What would have worked is a hidden camera capturing the comments and catcalls the girl actually gets from people around her ON the beach. To me, it looked more like a statement on the garbage collection and disposal situation in Karachi
This was a wonderful watch, thank you. “Tum yahaan ki ho ya wahaan ki?” – absolutely piercing.
Same sick people both side of border…and same dirty beaches….
Good propaganda against Pakistan. Can a lone walk around on a deserted beach like
this in Bombay, Chennai or for matter in Europe?
itti gori chhori! dhoop mein nikla na karo roop ki rani gora rang kaala na pad jaaye. (reminded me more of ‘only mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun’ more than anything else). bloody installation bullshit art!
It’s the same, even in Bombay, even if the beach isn’t more than 3minutes away from home. “It’s not safe”, “Don’t go alone”, “Don’t act oversmart” and the ultimate “You’re a girl” reminder. Thanks for sharing this video & the message at the end. :)
I’m just curious, you know. And I really dislike how people think misogyny is one culture/country/state’s problem so don’t mistake this for it. Help me understand, though, why was a dichotomy of the west and east so necessary to implicate here. Because I’ve lived (as a woman) in USA and UK and women get raped for ‘daring’ to go to the beach, hills, whatever space you’re talking about. Women get raped in dorm halls, in their very own rooms by the men they trust. So what I’m trying to ask here is: Why did the artist glorify the west through the constant voices in the background? Why can’t we conclude that public space is controlled by patriarchy THROUGHOUT the world and not just in one place?
patriarchy is a global predicament. however, there is a strong sentiment in parts of the global south, which excuses and justifies local patriarchy as regional conservatism, religious mores, cultural values, and seeks to un-authenticate people who cross those. I am trying to play with those statements, that render a woman as “western” “feminist” “fahaash” if she wears jeans. Same with sunglasses. It’s an interesting way to alienate and oppress.
I request the moderator to please remove the tag of Pakistan. This isn’t about Pakistan this is about how women are perceived in a patriarchal society, which isn’t much different from some part in India or countries of middle east.
Even all these years later, this resonates with me (I am now in my fifties :) , the things a woman has to hear and the hoops she has to jump through to achieve independence in Pakistan, even a simple thing like walk on the beach by herself.in Karachi. Sadly, young Pakistanis these days yearn to do so much, and cannot. I wish a woman did not have to hear all these comments when she tries to be independent in Pakistan and particularly Karachi, and that a woman COULD do things like walk on the beach by herself in Pakistan, particularly in Karachi, but the fact remains that she cannot because sadly enough it IS unsafe. I agreed with your video until the final message that said she should do what she likes…that is wishful thinking, and not reality.
Brilliant one :)
” kya point prove karna cha rahi ho . Tumhe duniya ki reality nahi pata . ” …” paagal ho gayi hai ..tu badal le gi kya duniya ko “. “Bache apni protection karna seekh.. tujhe nahi pata “. Haye kalli kithe chali gayi … “.” jao ji le ke aao ohnu 8 vaj gaye aayi ni haje tak “.
I too can record a voice over of even more ridiculous stuff, that I come up with, narrated by some friends of mine. Alas I’m not so big on bandwagoning. Liberalism is a fashion these days.
My previous comment is concerned with the video & the creativity involved. The content surely is based on a social reality. There’s no denying that our public places are unsafe for young single women, so those admonishing them from venturing out are not entirely at fault. A safer environment will help assuage the genuine concerns of family & friends. Women will have a different set of social problems just like they’ll always have a different set of medical problems, because they are physically different. You can’t blame a doctor for a different disease or a different treatment of it between men & women, similarly if a parent has different concerns for the safety of their female child than a male one plz don’t blame it on this new favorite villain of patriarchy and spare the one who cares about you from the blame of gender discrimination.
In short the creator of this clip seems to have mixed up the blame for sexual violence & discrimination between the perpetrators and those who simply wish to be careful & avoid becoming its victim. I certainly am against those who harass women in public or private but this video just has such exaggerated and dramatised dialog that I couldn’t help but criticise the genius behind its creation.
Shaabash sher ki bachi.women should be empowered to do as they like. Critics stopping her shoulud change their thinking. Aakher kab tak aap aurat ko equaqlity nahi do gey. come on subcontinentals lets give them their due
Sher ki bachchi nahi, sherni aur sher ki bachchi. Takes two to reproduce
Reblogged this on DYARA(Circle/Frame).
Not denying the lack of safety for women in public spaces, esp of South Asia. But this video is self-contradictory. The fact that, in spite of all the cautions and admonishments, nothing really happens on the beach and the girl walks around quite freely, belies the whole point it is trying to make. What would have worked is a hidden camera capturing the comments and catcalls the girl actually gets from people around her ON the beach. To me, it looked more like a statement on the garbage collection and disposal situation in Karachi
OH MY GOD.i love you for this.
on the beach in Jeans!!!!! is that how it happens in Pakistan??? don’t people wear swimwear??