The Orkut Brahmins

This excerpt from a discussion on the message board of a ‘Brahmin’ community on the social networking site young people spend hours on these days, offered without comment:

T.U.»»: Why do we have Ram’s Picture ?
I know that Ram was one of the avatars of Lord Vishnu, but the thing is Ram was not a Brahmin, he was a Kshatriya..The Raghukul Gotra among Kshatriyas are from Ram’s descendants..So as a Hindu I respect Shri Ram, but as a Brahmin It is lord Vishnu we should worship..what say? Correct me if I am wrong ..

krishna: just a reply……..
well……there r lot many humans to bind in castism man…..keep LORD RAM separate from this stupid concept……GOD don’t have any cast they r above of all this…..
if u say ur a brahmin u shud keep this simple fact in mind that our GOD’s doesn’t come under the concepts of what we brahmins created as CAST………any correction of what ever i said always welcome….thanx
and one more thing LORD vishnu is neighter a kshatriya nor a brahmin……

T.U.»» if you think castism is a stupid concept then why did you join the community of Brahmin Caste? I mean I also don’t believe in untouchability and similar evils, but being from a Brahmin Caste, I am proud of the contribution our ancestors made to the Sanatan Dharma and the world..It is clearly written in Vishnu Puran that in Kalyug, the Shudras will compete with Brahmins for Supremecy and try to rule them..IF you don’t believe then Go and Check in TN, how Brahmins are treated there..How Ramadoss (A Shudra) is troubling Venugopal of AIIMS (The Best Cardiac Surgeon in India)because he is a Brahmin…

T.U.»»: LORD vishnu is neighter a kshatriya nor a brahmin…
Agreed, but as an Ram avatar he took birth as a Kshatriya..I am not asking to glorify Ravana a Brahmin over Ram a Kshatriya..I am just saying from the 10 Avatars of Lord Vishnu, putting Ram’s Pic for a Brahmin is not correct, I would like to see Kalki Avatar’s Pic here…

The debate was resolved by replacing Ram’s picture with an Om. The community has 4,132 members.

20 thoughts on “The Orkut Brahmins”

  1. Hi all,

    Initially I was a bit unnerved when I heard that Kafila, the blog, is getting “launched” at the ISF , and that the group that was going to blog on it preferred to call it, offcially, a blog about “radical” democracy and what not.

    It seemed to me that all this formal announcement and launching would basically ‘take the piss out’ of this whole blogging thing, which basically appeals to me because of its informality more than anything else.

    Well, just read some of the posts and felt very relieved.

    Its not all that it uncannily promised to be. Its just another wordsheet on blogosphere where some folks, mainly from SARAI, ‘sit and bitch’ about everything else. wonderful.

    Anyways I must say this blog is as good as it gets …keep at it. You have my vote, …now that leads to ” radical ” democracy or not…I really have no idea :)

    Gracias…asim.

    PS: I am not trying to get at you or anything like that(why will I ?). Just curious ,you seem to watch a lot of TV and esp. a lot of IBN( Actually it also makes me nervous, since I work there, now I am thinking all those TRP figures may not be cooked up afterall.)

  2. Aasim, incidentally the post you have commented about is not about big media, and not about IBN. I agree that there is an overemphasis on big media in other posts, but as far as I am concerned, I don’t watch TV, don’t have one, don’t want to have one :)

    As for the “launch,” it was just a discussion.

  3. I pity these people.

    However, in the technical sense, being born a Brahmin, I can assert that no deity is exclusively associated with Brahminism. Essentially every Brahmin family has an ancestral Kuladaivat/Kuladevi which is a manifestation of Shankar or Vishnu (or something else), irrespective of what it is actually called. There are Vishnu-following Brahmins, and there are Shiva following Brahmins too. The deity worshipped depends on the sub-sect, and the rishis that is thought to be one’s ancestor

  4. hi friends , i wud like to comment on having the lord RAMA’S pic,according to me,when we take pic of lord RAMA then the question does not arrive here of is shree rama is brahmin or notas by seeing pic
    one thing comes in to te mind presence of him, and most imp thing is that in Gita lord krishna had said that there are 4 types of varna that means 4 caste Brahmins ,Kshatriya,vaishyasand sudhras but it is to the humans only not to the gods or avatar remember this that for gad sake plz stop doing partiton between caste with gods yar because they are much much more beyond all the caste

  5. The very main spirirual reality finally reaches the conclusion ” ALL ARE ONE ” ONE AND ONENESS IS THE TRUE.
    By creation THE ONE has devided into many and many has devided into many many and many many has been devided into infinity.

    Those who are fanatic – By Religion, By Country, By Region, By Caste and By Many Sub divisions – Should study little about ASTRONOMY – The latest inventions about the Universe and its magnitude, then they will be broad enough to understand “THE ONE” and its infinite divisions.

    Dharma is common to all. Pancha Boothas are common to all. Who is first and who is last ?

    Every men has got four types of natural behaviors in every day’s day to day work. In the morning when he gets up he will be ready to clean himself and removing all dirts and does the job of perfection – the job is called Sudhra Job,
    After his bathing and cleanness of home, he is ready for Pooja and he goes for prayer – the job is called Brahmin Job, After he comes out of pooja, he is ready to work for his well being- this job is called Vaishya job. Whe a man doing his above jobs if anyone disturbs as an enemy, he is preferred to fight and establish his strength and dharma- this job is called Shatriya Job.

    So, every one in his day to day life does all the four jobs, this is purely the hindu way of life teaches the fundamentals to the civilised people. Later on those who are doing the jobs as their proffession became the fanatics towards their jobs.Those who are intelligents, they never allowed others to even learn.Those who became warriors they declared as Kings and Shatrias, they never allowed others to enterinto their domain.The same way those who were doing Vaishya job became vaishyas and they never allowed anyone learn about their business. Finally all the left out servicing jobs were given to the large number of people and they donot have any other options in the later days and they become Sudhras. Then further they were become untouchable and due to their poor income jobs they became week in the society and worked as a slaves.

    Inner ambition of the weeker and large society always try to dominate others. When the science brought to the light and revelutionary social reformers made them to study, they started becomming to their original way of life.

    Those who have suppressed them should automatically realise their mistakes.The time will change all and make all of them should fall on the grooves.

    Conclusion :

    EVERY HUMAN IS BRAHMIN, SHATRIYA,VAISYA, AND SUDHRA.

    GOD IS ONLY ONE – HINDU GODS,MOHMAD NABI AND ALLAH, JESUS AND KHARTHA, BUDHA,MAHAVEER, AND MANAY MANY ARE ONE,THE ONE ONLY.

    EARTH IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST PARTS OF UNIVERSE,

    GALAXY IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST PORTION MEGA UNIVERSE,

    EXPLORE THE SCIENCE, BELIEVE THE TRUTH, LOVE EVERY ONE THAT IS THE LIFE.

    BY BRAHMARATCHAS

  6. Thanks god ,Dalits are not hindu ,otherwise 175 million dalits have to compete with brahmins in kalug.I did not find any shudhra gods or godeses in hindu mythology.I did not understand ,why brahmins had killed Ravi Dass ,who was not belong to shudhra ,can any hindu explain me.

  7. every human cannot be brahmin, Kshatriya, vaishya and shudra. such reductionsm can only serve brahminism and strenghten its obnoxious value system.
    where will u place a Dalit then? A Dalit can be a Scholar as a Dalit. No need for him/her to be attributed with the the guna of brahmin to be called a scholar. such hegemonic concepts need to be problematised and deconstructed.
    a cultural critique of such ridiculous glorification of purity/pollution ideas rule the roost of the scholarly life of many caste hindus.
    feel pity for such brahmincal imaginations
    do we really need to eat this rotten stuff even in this 21st century?
    it is the hell from which India should be emancipated
    huh!

  8. sorry read it as>>>
    a cultural critique of such ridiculous glorification of purity/pollution ideas needed.
    unfortunately scholarly life of many caste hindus are ruled by glorified brahminism

  9. Odd! I wonder why it didnt strike any of the Orkut brahmins that if the idea is to find a brahmin incarnation then they have two choices – they have is Parasurama or Vamana – neither of them was known for scholarship of any kind.

    The former killed his mother at his father’s bidding and then to avenge his father’s assassination by the king, went around the world in bouts of blind rage 21 times – butchering kshatriyas with a battle axe. The latter put his smartness and people’s respect for his brahman credentials at the service of despicable weakness of character. He suppressed a decent charitable and trusting king by banishing him to the netherworld) for no reason other than that the gods were jealous of the king’s popularity!

    It will take some creative thinking and hard work to reconstruct such pasts.

  10. Hinduism minus Brahminism means Zero,Hinduism is other name of Brahminism ,if you want to annhilate the brahminism means you have to annhilate the hinduism.are shudhras are ready to annhilate the hinduism and follow the Dr Ambedkar ,I would say no.let shudhra enjoy the slavery and pore some more water to hinduism.

  11. Hi. Here there is a mis-conception about sudras and daliths. Sudhras are farmers (examples chaudries, naidus, other labour communities) and daliths are SC’s and ST’s.

    You guys are true. Bramhins are the back bone of our hinduism.

  12. THERE ALWAYS LIES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADOPTED SONS (BRAHMINS) AND SONS OF THE SOIL(DRAVIDIANS).WHEN ADOPTED ONES TRIES TO PROVE THEIR SUPERIORITY BY WICKED IDEAS ,THIS MOTHERLAND WILL NOT TOLERATE.SHE WILL PUNISH YOU FOR THE KILLING HER INNOCENT ,PEACELOVING MILLION SONS IN THE NAME OF VEDAS AND BRAHMINISM. TIME HAS COME FOR REVENGE.KHOLKE BAITO. THIS IS THE TIME WHERE INFORMATION TRAVELS FASTER.TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.MY COUNTRY WILL BE BETTER AND STRONGEST.

  13. THE ERA OF KINGS ARE GONE ,THIS IS DEMOCRACY WHERE THE COUNTRY PROGRESSES WHEN ITS PEOPLE PROGRESS NOT JUST A BRAHMIN OR KINGS TREASURY.YOU PEOPLE FOOLED OR LURED THE KINGS BY YOUR WICKED IDEAS AND NEVER LET OTHERS PROGRESS . ADOPTED THE BUDHIST IDEAS (SHANKARA CHARYA) AND FUCKED THE BUDHISTS.THIS IS NOT ONE BUT THERE ARE MANY…………… .YOU PEOPLE BUILT HIDU TEMPLES OUT OF BUDHIST OR JAIN TEMPLES AND CONSIDER YOURSELF GREAT.THE INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION WAS JAIN ONE WITH SHIVA AS DIETY.YOU ADOPTED SONS TRY LOVING YOUR COUNTRY MEN FIRST BEFORE YOU SAY YOU LIKE YOUR COUNTRY.

  14. THE SANSKRIT IS DERIEVED FROM PRAKRIT WHICH IS OF ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF INDUS VALLEY (DRAVIDIANS). SO IF YOU CONSIDER SANSKRIT DEVINE SO PRAKRIT IS FATHER OF DIVINITY

  15. DO YOU THINK THE DIVIDED SOCIETY IN THE NAME OF CASTE CANNOT BE UNITED?.WAIT AND SEE ,ALL YOUR IDEAS WILL BE FOILED.WAIT YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWER

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